I do not look at any of the shows. Every time I do all I see is crap hunting,BS tactics,VERY VERY dumb deer/elk.I am not sure where people hunt on the shows but I my self have never seen some of the crap the hunters can get away with.

I have many many PY deer and a few PY elk. All came from public land.I have allso never used a guide. What I do is HUNT I donot set in a chair and look at the tv.I take hunting like it is my life.I hunt 30 to 45 days non stop till i fill my tags. I allso let a lot of smaller bucks/bulls walk befor I shoot.

There is only 3 ways to kill a real big/old animal

1st BUY it === This is tv show way
2nd Put in tons of time look for the animal you want alll year.
3 Get real lucky


No money no time GOOD LUCK
Charles Bradford