Well boys I seen him yesterday morning. A massive huge monsterous, did I mention FRICKING BIG 8 point! 20 yards but in the willows[:@]. No shot I watched him for what seemed like 10 minutes. I tried everything, grunting, snort weezeing, even rattling after he passed and nothing[:@][:@]! The one good thing is he never busted me, so there is hope.