I've shot 3 does with the commanders, including one this past Saturday. I've had pass throughs on all 3 of them.

The first one was exceptional. I was using ACTIV slugs at the time (2 seasons ago not counting this one), and they went out of business. Unfortunately, I had a box of their slugs lined up, but they fell through at the last minute. I only had a couple left, so I went to the storethe night before season opener, and bought the lightfields.

That next morning, I had a doe come in, and shot her with my last two activs. Thus, I was forced to reload completely with the Lightfields, having never shot them through the gun before. About a 1/2 hour later, another doe came in and offered a 80 yard shot in between two trees. That deer dropped like a rock, and it went through and through. In fact, all 3 of my harvests with the lightfields have been through and through, and done considerable damage to their vitals.

I swear by them now. And to be honest, they shoot darn well in a smoothbore with the improved cylinder as they suggest on the box. Most gun-lovers won't try that, but I did at the manufacturer's reccommendation, and was VERY impressed.