well I have tags for a dec5-10 seasone actually we have 3 maybe 4 dont know if one member of our group is in or not, but it will be atleast around freezing druing mid day and well below around the best times and most likely to get a shot off dusk and dawn, should we see if regular 209 primers work the same as the rem cleanbores?? just for the extra heat or should the Rem ones to the trick.. I am just wanting to cover my bases cause were we hunt they get some huge bucks and I wanna make sure I here the ka-boom and not just Ka- lol