I have also had good luck with them, three deer so far this year. Farthest one went 40 yards, 12 point buck, but all had blood trails a half blind man could follow. No hands and knees. But its all about shot placement for blood. Hit them where it counts with any head and the wont go far. Just like my gun experiences, many told me i wouldnt kill a deer with a .410 well 6 fell in two years, all in there tracks. Hit them where it counts.Behind the Shoulder. Ps i shot a mathews lx 27 draw 74 pounds 2219 arrows, nothing stops those arrows accept a Ford HEHE