depends alot on the type of terrain you hunt the type of gun you use and so on. Im shooting a remington 870 cantilever barrel and sabots. I m not afraid to push it past 150, and in them situitans you need a good scope, versus if you hunting with rifled slugs or tight woods the scope might actually hinder you. I put the new Bushnell banner 2-7*36 scope on my gun, i hate the scope but for thick cover woods it works well, shot a doe at 28 yards this morning in thick stuff and didnt have a problem finding her in the scope