I hunt the Iron River area in the UP... my family has hunted the same area for the last 50 years... used to be that all 8 to 10 people could shoot a 6 or bigger years ago *late 80's or so"... we have neighbors with a 160 next to us... elevated blinds, big bait piles.. if it's brown it's down... they hunt all of bow, gun, muzzle loader, late seasons, etc... rotate family and friends in and out... so in the last 10 years since they bought the place hunting has gone down hill in a bad way... lot of does, no bucks... small fawn crops... skittish deer cause 4 wheelers and stinky hunters are all over the place and have them spooked by the 2nd week in september for gods sake... we only have a 20 but we boarder about 25 sq miles of CFA land... it's been pretty quiet since there are no more deer here and fred trost isn't touting it as being the big buck mecca... the last 4 years i've hunted i've seen literally 3 spikes, one 3 pt and a decent bruiser i couldn't get a shot at... i keep walking further from camp looking for that hole... btw we practice QDM.. 6 or larger.. someday it'll pay off...and it has to be a good 6 at that... since i am from the southern lower it's not worth shooting small deer when you can shoot a yearling here that rivals a 3 year old up there... i prefer doe if i can from the UP vs small bucks... but i am in DMU 36 and i was a day late getting to buy my private land permit... so i guess we'll have to hunt hard this year, pray to the good lord to let ole mossy horns gray ghost come out of the swamp for me and enjoy the time spent in the woods... i am outta here saturday for 2nd week...