I literally love mine, but I use it in an unconventional way. I purposely place my lounge in an area where I know I am going to spend some all day sits or even need to sleep all night in it. I do not use it as a climber. I set up a ladder to it and leave it. I have a few places that my stands never get bothered and this is where I have my lounge. I also have it chained on to the tree. It would take a gorilla to get it loose.

It is by far the safest and most confortable stand I have ever sat in. Idislike it as a climber though, its cumbersome and aweful noisey. So for me it works great for fixed stand on all day hunts during the rut or staying all night during the early season feeding cycles.