I have a lot of different stands, one of which is a tree lounge. I don't climb with it, I have it set in probably my most productive early season buck hangout. I have a ladder going up to it. I must admit, that sucker is so comfortable its easy to sleep in if you choose too. Its also a great stand to sleep in all night in the early season, heat of late August and early September if a guy wants to hunt an evening hunt, sleep all night and be there at daylight. I woke up one morning after sleeping all night in it...to 12 head of elk under me!