Thanks fl.huntress, thats what I am talking about. If female urine from the period to ovulation stage proves to work as well as doe urine, think of the possibilities. You would have 12 months worth of urine to market vs 1-3 for does. Just need to find a way to preserve it. I know my urine makes for good mock scrapes & to freshen them. Human scent is what spooks deer not urine. I have freshen scrapes with my pee only to find them doubled in size the next day. Kim & fl.huntress and any others keep us posted on your results.