Tell me about it, its really hard to do. I got one spot i used to hunt alone, but now there is another guy who hunts it during shotgun. There are deer in there but the chances of killing a big buck are about slim to none. I'd like to hunt elsewhere but know how tough it will be to gain permission to some of the better land. I got permission to a place last week but im only allowed to hunt it if the other hunter isnt there, so thats not much good. I asked some other property owner yesterday about hunting and he told me he already had 2 hunters so it wasnt a good idea. Im having an uncle try and hook me up with a few of his old honey holes where he doesnt even really hunt anymore. If that fails, im going door to door later today. If i get turned down 20 times but allowed 1, then its worth it. I would lease land in a heartbeat, only problem is the leases are never advertised around here and i dont want to go through a middleman like BaseCamp.