Hey Butch,

I am fairly new to treestands as well this year and I just posted a question regarding climbers vs. hangons. I have a hang-on that weighs less than 16lbs, and 2lbs for the climbing sticks. I find it not as bulky as the Summit Bushmaster I also have. Again I am new to this but I have been up in both and find, if you don't mind the climbing, the hang-on is almost as fast and at least quiet as the climber, easier to carry and more compact. Just my $.02.