The slugs I use are comparabe to a lot of higher powered rifles, and have far more 100 yard energy then most of them. Muzzle speed on the hand packed sabotslugs are approx 2350 fps, 1 1/8 oz (over 400 grain)hollow pointslug, producing approx 2000 lbs of energy, at 100 yards. Even a hit in the hind quarter would be devastating to any deer under 300 lbs. With these hand loads, I have never had a deer walk away (and surprisingly get very little meat damage). I feel that the ammo that I am using (and pattern at about 4 1/2" - 5" at 150 yards) is more than capable of the shot, just curious as to the lead range...not opinions that are unfounded as to weather or not you feel that I am doing thing ethically...I AM, ALWAYS HAVE, AND ALWAYS WILL hunt ethically, and would never take a shot that I dont feel confidant in....thus this poll.