Thanks Jonesy. Because of work schedule, it will be hard to do a couple of times a day but I will get the dog out there at least once a week. I will work him on several birds that day. I do know how to dizzy a bird and will do that. I will try and get out there as much as possible. I understand where you are going with this. Let the dog see that it has dominance over the bird. I appreciate your time and patience in helping me with this. Is there a way to stay in touch with you over time?