that was a pretty good write up but don't believe everything you read. i lost faith in the write up right after the testerstated that he was holding a foot high to make his long shots from 275-320 yard shots. do the math at 300 yards the bullet drop of a .17hmris 35 inches how can he hold a foot high and make the shot. i own a .17 hmrmodel 93 stainless savage and i will also say that they are one of the best shooting guns that i have ever owned. but they are a long ways from the kill machines that they are made out to be. there are just to small. back the question.. i have a gun that i only use for coyotes. it is a .223 h&r ultra light youth model with a 3-9 powerand a camo kit on it.it only weights five pounds and with the short stock it is perfect for sitting in a snow bank with my heavy coat on. the standard length stocks i think are to long with a heavy coat. and the five pound riflefeels really good after draging the gun around for 5 or 6 hours. the lighter the better i think.