Thanks .dont get me wrong there is alot of good questions and answers on the forums, but alot of them,its like reading about a bunch of ten year old chit chat,i truly was asking for a anti-theft devicefor my stand ,that i could lock and was hard to cut,or rip off my standbecause ive lost some stands in the past....but people was to busy answering if apple juice makes your pee work as a attractant........LOL