well heading out tomorrow to hunt the land that the guy said i can went up tuesday night there is a deer there that ripped up a christmas tree to rub on.. wow he must be huge... has to be an 8 or better for me to end my buck season.... when i was there i seen so many foot prints its not funny from the time i left his house walked around the property i seen 18 deer 3 small bucks like forks and spikes and the rest where doe.. alot of big doe.. i had to wait to come up there the guy went on vacation and just got back sunday... well thursday will be my first day to hunt there i will post how it works out...