It just goes to show you everyonehas different likes and dislikes.I had the exact opposite feeling then rush creek. Last year I used by brother's Lone Wolf Sit & Climb (which he loves by the way)and my Logy. And I didn't really like either one, so thats why I gave the Summit Goliath a try and loved it! Price was not an issue, my comfort and safety was. I just liked the Summit the best. So my best advise to mathewsotb22 is try as many as you can, and pick the one that "feels" the best to you and buy that one.