I know Len well from the other forums and also as an e-mail exchanger with me on many, many occasions. He will certainly call the kettle black, just like I will.

I have NOT shot the MZE arrow rest, but I couldn't if I wanted to on my particular bows because I dont' have a cable guard or cable slide to hook it to. Nor do I want a cable guard to hook it to anyways.

However, when it comes to GKF arrow rests, that is a point where I can't sit back and have people, based upon ONE experience draw a line in the sand. I have Golden Key arrow rests that are over 20 years old and I can still shoot them if I so choose. I have a Golden Premier that has shot many, many thousands of shots and it is still as good as the day I took it out of the package.

I have tried the TT arrow rest, and the ARC, and the Golden Key - and I must say that while I liked the other two rests, neither of them offered the fine tune adjustability of the Golden Key fall aways, and I mean NONE of them. First off, I do NOT believe in a large amount of travel in any fall away arrow rest - to me too much movement means a chance of movement occuring before I want it to. I learned the hardway on my ARC and TT that 1" of travel is ludicrous when you only NEED to have those vanes clear the rest. What I learned is that if you go with a large amount of travel, then the instant your cable moves, then so does the rest support arm and you end up shooting fliers high or low at the longer (>50 yards) distances that seemed unexplainable. As soon as I "listened" and utilized a spring mechanism between the lanyard and the rest and then ran the string to the busss cable, I was able to tune in a 'delay' in the fall of that rest and my groups and consistencey improved immediately as if someone flipped a light switch. I had also minimized the rise and fall of the rest to just enough to allow the fletches to clear.

In this sport, if you use something up, you MUST give away something in return. Gain speed, you give up some stability and forgiveness, increase the noise, vibration, and jarring effects, and increase the chances of something rattling loose as well.

Too much rise and fall of the arrow rest arm and you chance having things go prematurely, or you have great difficulties shooting for beans on a 'soft' day or you chase sight marks for no apparent reason.

A person is going to shoot what works best for them, but there are way too many people out there that are tunnel visioned when it comes to things - - POUNDAGE - people pick a poundage and will spend months trying to shoot THAT poundage and won't move it a bit up or down to find the sweet spot for the arrow/broadhead combo.

Rests - they will spend months with a rest setting instead of trying to set things to the MINIMUM amount of movement or minimum setting to get the job done - people really tend to go overboard on CLEARANCE when it comes to arrow rests - to the bad expense of losing the inherent advantages to them.

Arrows - people at first thought that overdraws and lighter arrows were the way to go - until they wised up that their penetration, noise, vibration, and accuracy went to heck in a hay basket. Now, most people are away from overdraws and back into reality of getting some "punch" behind the arrows again - - many are shooting them still way to light, but not as bad as just 5 years ago.

GKF has been around since 1968 in the arrow rest industry. They know what they're doing and support their products to the nth degree.

MZE builds a fine arrow rest too, but that doesn't mean they are for everyone, just like the trophy taker isn't for everyone either.

Personally, I"ll stick with the GKF products simply because of the track record I've had with them since 1972 when I got my first one. I always fall back to them, and believe you me, I've tried pretty much everything out there at one time or the other. That includes me even contacting Len over a year ago concerning the MZE fall away - - until I found out you needed a cable guard to use one. Then that was totally the end of the issue for ME.

Think of adjustability, stability, reliability, number of screws and the potential of breakage or things coming loose. There is a lot more to this game and the fairness of the chase than a brand name.

Whatever works..

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