Today i went out shooting with my couson who bought a switchback today. ALl he had was a string loop and a kisser button... So when i got back home i decided to take my peep site off. I unwrapped the serving that holds the peep in place and CAREFULLY took the peep out so i wouldnt hurt the string any. I waxed it a little bit and went out shooting. I moved my kisser button up a little bit. I started shooting and i kept shooting high. I also kept both my eyes open and that helped alot. I moved my kisser back down a little bit. little by little and i got it where i could hit a 1inch piece foam at 20 yards. 3 out of 5 times i would hit the 1 inch piece. The others would either be right beside it or around a 1/2 inch off. It took me around 1.5 hours to figure out how to shoot w/ out a peep and i like it alot without it. Without the rubber peep, it seems little bit faster than what it was before.