Hey edggy don't be so quick to discount homemade formulas. I have spent hours reading in books on BP shooting and hours in fourms like these and there is mountains of information on homemade formulas for cleaning and the like. I even make up a lube called Moose snot. How's that for a name? LOL !!!!

These solutions work just fine for what they are intended for and I will probably use them for years to come unless something else catches my eye that may work better.

Isn't this just a great hobby and sport.