I have a black powder cap and ball .44 caliber. I bought it at Cabela's. It is the target model F.L. Lippeta. 25 grains a wonder wad and a .451 roundball. Actually if I can get leaned into a tree at one sitting in a snow bank I can usually pop them... with in reason.

I sometimes hunt them with .22 caliber revolvers and pistols also.