Mr L. I'm in my 40's and have alot more than 20 or 30 birds under my belt.I've been chasin turkey over 30 yrs.I take 1 week vacation in the Spring to hunt turkey.The turkey here in Pa. are under as much pressure as any birds in the country.I've never been on a guided hunt and have NEVER hunted a game preserve.I'll agree there are alot of huntin shows that are staged.(That's why I don't watch em)There are many other members on this board with as much or more experience than me.To classify us as NON HUNTERS is an insult.This may shock you but maybe,just maybe some of us actually have some skill.