I have shot 2 deer in the gut. I have recovered one and lost one. The one I lost I didnt wait long enough. I now know that if I gut shoot one I need to wait a good 10-12 hours. The one I recovered I shot with a rifle. I was cold and it was raining and I was 13.. My first deer. When i got to it the guts were hanging out of its belly.. Those noslers did the trick! I put the finisher in the neck.