bwhunter i am thinking 421. goliath was raised inknox, pa a hour east of me by clarion. he was stolen off the original farmer but the farmer got him back 2 years later. the gut that stole him had a deer farm 50 miles frm the original farmer. i have seen a replica of the mount in person and believe me it huge. i'll post some pics i have of it and some others like the hanson buck when i get a chance. the pics are from double diamond deer ranch in cooks forest.