Well I helped drag the buck ive been hunting for over 2 years tonight. An old family friend came in and killed him during the short blackpowder season we have. I had him at 30 yrds, full draw, two weeks ago... but he stopped behind a tree and i never had a good shot. Here's a bad pic of him i took w/ my cell phone. He's a main frame 8 @ 22 inches wide, w/ a third main beam coming off his right side. My dad said i looked like the kid they cancelled christmas on when i saw it. I guess im just venting my frustration to yall,i got the rest of the season to find another....Im sure this happens to a lot of us.