stealthycat - Actually you were off by 12 4/8&quot; while I was off by 6 4/8&quot;. Which means I was 50% closer than you<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>. Sorry, but I couldn't resist<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>.

Either way he is a fantastic buck.

Saskman - can you post the measurements. I always like to check myself to see where I misjudged. I'm always trying to improve my judging skills. I bet I overestimated the brows, I thought the forward curve might add to their length. I also counted two of the non-typical points that were probably too short to score.

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