Well bron, recoil isn't bad in most ML's compared to some heavy recoiling rifles like I shoot like 300RUM, but was noticing several folks always mention "don't shoot 150gr powder, cause the recoil is bad, or several others". I think its bascially they couldn't get them to shoot, so if you use it, they feel kinda bad. But who knows. But was comparing the percieved recoil of my hawkin to my knight elite, and was wondering if anyone else seen this. My point was I wouldn't let recoil keep me from trying 150gr loads in a modern inline.