i live up north in western washington way out back in the woods and the loggin roads are endless and very fun to grouse hunt...well about 2 days ago i was grouse huntin with my bow(i was using practice tips) and i came upon a grouse at about 40 yards away so i draw back,take aim...and let go it hits the grouse right in the chest and goes through and little did i know there was another grouse right behind the one i shot so it hit the other one also[8D][8D]