A landowner and his brother I have hunted on for several years, again gave me permission(in an odd way). But this is how its given now..........."you can continue to hunt on us because if we see you we are not going to say anything, but if you get hurt on our land we didn't give you permission." Huh? I didn't say anything because I understood and we continued our conversation. Thats fine by me although I would much rather have written permission. They have told a few others who hunt on some of their land the same thing. The brothers told me they are not a bit worried about me trying to sue them if anything happened, but are afraid my spouse or other relatives might try. No matter what I tell them, they are not impressed with Illinois liability laws. Guess I can't blame them after their insurance agent fills their heads and threatens to raise their insurance rates if they give "permission". My, how times have changed.[>:]