I finally got the gun.It took kimber about 2 months longer than they said.The gun feels great only weighs 6 pounds 10 ounces with scope and sling.the only ammo I have shot though the gun so far is remington accutips,and on a bad rest at about 80 yards it shot 1 1/4 inch 3 shot group.I feel the gun will shot better than this when I find a good rest to use(I was in a hurry to shot so I used the first thing I could find).