Las' couple of years, the bulls have been talkin' thru the 1st week of October. But this year, they were only luke warm on the first day or rifle season (9/20), an' have now stopped talkin' altogether. I gotta think the rut will happen mostly durin' September, an' will vary accordin' to the great elk spirit's will. A average start an' stop date may be handy, but with drought, an' early blizzards like the one I jus' got thru, you cain't really tell fer sure.

BJ