i have heard stories about guys who made a mistake kill, less then 8 or 6 points depending on the management unit. when you go to the game commision you pay the $25 and then if they don't believe you ,you have to take them to the kill site and they will determine if you should have shot or not andwhether you should have been able to tell if it was legal or not. if they decide you should have been able to tell and you shot anyway the fine will be $500.