RE: OK why the difference?
Well, I kinda live near the British Columbia/Alberta border here in north west Montana, and here we call it a 4 pt( if it has 8)ect. Or we may call it a 4x5 or 5x8, but never would it be a 13 pointer, trust me its not a American thing or Canadian thing its the easterners terminology differs from the westerners, Eh?