I planted BFO the last week in Aug. I had my doughts about it. Here in centrel NY we had very little rain for the past month.after about 2 weeks it started to come up NO GREAT. about the middle of Sept it looked better but NOT GREAT. Its looking better now the plot is all greened up and looks OK. I was out this morning to check the plot and to my surprise, there where 8 deer in the plot and 4 coming to it. I guess it works. plants are about 5'' hight. still needs rain