well beagle , my dad said he saw a huge buck , one of the 140 class deer on the farm chasing today as well.....so who knows? all i can say is the code blue might just be comin out soon! atleast some curiousity trail maker....... but my bro recovered her for me since it started to heat up , he said i got a lung and liver , she musta been slightly quartering to me , but those rockets and my vipertec dont play , 3rd pass through in 3 shots on deer!!!!!