wow this post has really gotten the attention of at lot of us i originally posted that I was against semi automactic rifles for hunting I didn't realize that there was a limit as to how many bullets you can load ,5 is more than resonable and yes I'm pretty sure my pump can be damn near as fast if not as fast as a semi auto. there has been some very negative posts and after reading all of them we need to agree to each his own .if you don't want people hunting on your land withrifles post your land . if you don't own land deal with it or find some land thatis posted that way