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"Well it didn't take very long to be called a liar"

I never called you a liar, nor do I hold that view. I took your post about the elk very seriously and indeed went on to test the ferrule of several broadheads in concrete. While the ferrule of the Snyper was the only one to break it was also the only one whose tip embedded and remained in the concrete. The result that you indicate on the coyote neck shot, well I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it just doesn't seem even remotely possible. Something would have to be very, very wrong with that head for that to happen.