Do I "get off on it?" No. Do I enjoy a little bickering and debate? Sure
Do I personally attack anybody on this board (other than President Bush)? Nope. Never have,but I am about tocall out somebody right now.

djgj200- you posted the following:
Well, Mr. Djgj- it's 24 hours after I asked you to send it to me, and I'm still waiting. Ummm.... Still waiting .... Maybe I'll take a nap.

For the record, djgj likes to makes up whales' tales to make himself look good, but hides like a girl when he gets called out on it.

As far asYOUR post history goes, all 37 of them, I've reviewed the same, and concluded that you arenothing but a muckrake. You've been involved inseveral threads, all of which result in youin some personal battle with another poster, and about 90% of your posts revolve around gun ownership, gun rights, and the Second Amendment. This is the hunting board, so don' throw a fit when somebody's views aren't in-line with the NRA. This is the hunting board - not the NRA board, pal.

Spikehorn - you don't have to apologize for stirring up this crapstorm. I did it. These guys were angry about my post concerning hunting age limits, and they spilled the argument over into this thread.

AJ52 - you are only half right. We DO need to isolate the "small sect" of the hunters - the idiots who shoot up the livestock, the guys who trespass, the poachers, the guys who don't teach their kids right. The fact is that we CAN'T. We can't "lock 'em up." If you worked in law enforcement, you'd understand. The only way is to start legislating to control who hunts, and what weaponthey use to do it. Sure it sucks that honest people lose certain privileges, but that's life man. There's a means to every end, and nothing comes for free. When you're talking about hunting, increased safety has a cost. I hope that this thread opens your eyes about that. The cost is hunters' "rights." You wanna be safe, well that's how you get there.

The fact is, the simplest solution is the best. You look at the numbers, see who the safest hunters are, and who are involved in the most accidents.You then tighten the screws on the latter by either taking them out of the woods, or taking the guns out of their hands.Whether you're running a business or a country, this is what you're trained to do, and that's precisely what I'm suggesting.

This isn't soccer or badminton where an accident results in a bone or soft-tissue injury that heals in a month or two. This is a sport where an accidentcauses certain death or grievous, life-changinginjury.

It's high time to start opening our eyes, as hunters, and look at the big picture. I no longer feel safe hunting in my own home state, and I actually quit rifle hunting in WV last year, due to the semi-automatic rifles and toddlers running around shootin' up the place. It was absolutely disgraceful anddownright scary.Sure, their parents were derelicts, but what can you do?You can't go down there and raise other peoples' kids, just because they did a shoddy job.The only sensible way is to make aminimum age or ban hunting with the semi-.

I'm sorry, I don't view a hunting law that forces us to hunt with a less dangerous weapon (limited rapid-fire capabilities, limited range) as an infringement on my rights to own a gun, and I look at them as progress, not regression.

Look at the handgun law you cited, AJ52 - a handgun is limited range, and can only be carried by 18+, if I'm not mistaken. A fairly sensible law, if you ask me. It's limiting who can hunt, and giving you a weapon with limited effective range. Not much different than a bow, really.