Damn, take it easy on me. I dont really care about what the breed isfor, I am not looking to enter in any field trials or competitions. I go bird hunting and I would love to take her with, flush or point, I could care less. I just figured to teach off of what she already does, instead of un-teaching and re-teaching. I dont even really care how "good" she is at it, just as long as she doesnt flush birds 200 yards away, that would be a waste. She does show signs of pointing, but when she flushes birds, shes not looking for them, she justs likes running through the tall grass with my other weim and finds them. And By the way, how exactly does her "profile" match those of "really bad ones" that you have seen. The only profile I gave was that she knows how to sit, stay, wait, leave it, fetch out of water, and flush birds when she stumbles upon them. How exactly does that make her a "really bad one"???