it's your fault[:@] number one you got him started into bow hunting,[] number two you didn't tell him not to shoot the young ones you assumed he knew and you assumed too much.[:'(] Number thre you didn't tell him about the work before hand nor did you go get him to do the work.[] Sad to say you ain't much of a teacher [:-]by hey you got him started now continue his education. he will either want to do the work or he will get out of it..[>:] Me I bought a climber the heck with hanging the stands. [8D]