My thoughts exactly, what state?????? Sure in the heck aint in WI, we just got into the pre rut lull. Meaning this is the stage where the bucks are seperating from bachelor groups and a guy can go out for 2 days - 2 weeks before even seeing a buck. I saw the big oneIam after lastnight, he came out all by himself about650pm, about 20 minutes after the four does went back into the woods. The bucks are seperating and the does know something is going to be going on very soon. Im now going to begin my rub and scrape scouting with in the week. By mid october the bucks should be going into rut pretty heavey. Getting excited.