Sorry guys, I've been off for 4 weeks chasing Elk here in Utah. I'm a mule deer hunter (hope that doesn't mess it all up), but my season runs until Dec. I have some great ground and chase some good mulies that will still score very well with the scoring system. Now that my elk hunts are over, I will focus on deer and let you know how it goes. I'll be around alot more now and be more vocal in the forum!