im not really crazy about the remington 11-87's. we hunted with a guy last year who had just bought one and the first day he had problems with it not kickin the shells out. if your only wantin one of those two guns id get the benelli nova, but i would strongly suggest buying a franchi varomax 3.5 my uncle bought one last year and its an awsome gun, especially for the price. its also a division of benelli like stoeger.