Ive shot factory vanes on the Terminators for the last couple years and havent had this problem so I dont think thats the culprit but you could be right on the form. Being that i was shooting the newbroadheads for the first time, it may be that I was concentrating more on watching my arrows rather than concentrating on my form. Tomorrow ill be shooting with my cousin so he can watch me shoot and see if he notices anything form wise. Thanks for the suggestions Allen. Im gonna get it straightened out tomorrow for sure. We already got a target setup to paper tune if need be. Ill let y'all know what i find out. Thanks again for all the advice guys.