I'm still not getting it. Art, are you saying that aHH bow with heavy arrows is more efficient than abow with light arrows? That I can understand if you factor in the momentum/ke/whatever you are getting. Every bow and design seems to have a point where you get the best transfer of energy with a given arrow weight.

Longbowman, have you got any chrony numbers? My experience has been just the opposite. Not saying the Hill and Hill style bows were dogs (and I have shot some deflex/reflex bows, even some recurves, that were slow), but compared to a well made deflex/reflex they can't hang for speed. I hope to do some more investigating soon--I've got an 85@30 deflex/reflex on order, and plan on using arrows that finish out between 800 and 1,000 grains on it. I have a chrony, and will see what it will do.

I'm not downing Hill or Hill style bows, or anyone that shoots them. They have taken their share of game over the years. My experience has just been a fast bow is a fast bow, regardless of arrow weight, and the same with slower bows.

I know that the shooter makes a difference, but just recently a deflex/reflex longbow (Martin Vision) set a new World Record in flight distance. O.L. Adcocks's bows, also deflex/reflex, set several records also.

Now I'm even more anxious to shoot my new bow and arrows! BTW, this bow was ordered for a special hunt, and when I get back it will be retired.Don't want to bugger up my shoulders!

Chad