Thank you for the info. Any idea how far off the shelf I should set the rest? Shot off the shelf yesterday a few times and talk about fletch contact!!! I got to get the rest put on, after it comes in. I think I will be OK after I put the rest on it....I hope, LOL. I was at approxamatly 10 yards and hit the bale, consistantly, but it was a bit of a mess as far as grouping. I ordered a new set of Easton Fall Stalker 2117's with the rest. I'll let you all know how it goes. How long should I stay at the 10 yard mark before moving to the 20? The 30?