just the other day i had to take my great pyrenees (bear)to the vet, he weighs 135+\-, wellthe vet ask me to hold him to keep him from going wild, and he will, well i've got him pinned against the wall, everything is going good, he gets a little worked up, and claws my back from my shoulder blade to my belt-line with his back leg, now the vet wants me to go to the doc[:@], for those of you who don't know what they look like heres a pic , i have also had stitches after freeing a deer from a fence[:@], and i had a squirrell in my game bag/vest i hear a rustling sound, and i'm gonna get him out and finish my biz, well he bit me[:-]