Been up in my stand with a i think gorilla brand sold at Wal-Mart

..haven't had any problems with it , lagged right into the tree without any problem and was very quiet,, btw shot at abear that was pushed down to me by my other hunting party, dudes,, never saw something move so fast through the timber it was like it's back feet were in front of it's front feet all the time it wentflyin' down out of there.