i though of this ,,especally cause i seen on hear where a guy used a screw in step to help with tree stand installation i thought of getting one and trying it with that and also cause the climbing sticks i have only have a rung on one side thought of get one to put across from one rung so i could step out of the stand with either leg,,cause it gets kinda spooky trying to step over the support cable and geting to that one stepp,,,any nough of that,,said that for no reason oh well,,anyways i went to local walmart and they did not have any,,an i dont thing that are local rural king does either,,unfortunely cause i could get a discont from there